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06/22/2016

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This arrived in the U.S. in 1987, too, which is when I saw it. But I missed a lot of these deeper points you make, Grumpy. I was completely caught up in sense impressions -- I swear I could almost smell it. I visited south-central France a decade later and spent a night wide awake during a thunderstorm just like the one in the movie that caused Jean to cry out to God. Just found a clip of that scene.

Yes its beautifully done. My mother lived in Provence for ten years and I used to walk our dogs through landscape like that in the movie

It is a great piece of work but almost unbearably sad. The second part, Manon of the Springs, lightens that just a little.

I had to brace myself to watch it because I remember the sadness of it. But it was a very enjoyable couple of hours.

I'm asking myself why I found it so extremely painful. I mean, overall it's no more gloomy than some of the Bergman films I love, or for that matter a Shakespeare tragedy. But that slow grinding down of Jean and his hopes was really hard for me to take. I'm not sure that I want or need to see it again.

I really enjoyed it, even though I dreaded it

When I first watched Jean De Florette a number of years ago, I watched Manon right afterwards -- within a day or two. I guess I didn't have time to really think about the sadness of the former, since I watched them as two parts of one longer story.

Liked them both very much, btw.

Bergman films make me feel hopeless about the human condition, but not sad the way Jean de Florette does. Is it because Bergman puts some distance between us and the characters by having them talk about their pain? Also the music in Jean de Florette, well, tugs at the heart strings -- the harmonica especially.

I don't remember the music. But yes, I think there is something about the consciousness of the situation, the analysis of it, that makes Bergman's miseries more bearable. Though, thinking about it a little more, I don't think that's the main difference for me. I can't think of a Bergman plot where someone basically innocent is just mercilessly destroyed the way Jean is.

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