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In New York, there adverts for Samantha Bee's TV show on the subways. They said, 'You are sexist if you don't watch it!'. I thought, that's great, it seems even feminists are laughing at themselves now!' It looks like however it was not meant as a joke.

You know if you get to the movies way too early there's a first tranch of trailers, with terrible adverts for local furniture stores. At least once, later on NYC I got to the mid town cinema too early and saw an advert for the Samantha Bee TV show. It's not at all funny. It was that which first gave me pause.

Old joke (maybe from the '70s):

Q: How many feminists does it take to change a light bulb?

A: That's NOT funny!

I take it S Bee is a "stand-up" sort of comedian? I rarely find them very funny anyway.

I was going to comment on your bad thoughts post that after a flurry of self-flagellation by a new liberals who seem to be honest, the rest have really dug in in a very nasty way. I listening to Mississippi Public Broadcasting on the radio when I'm driving, partly because I can't get anything, but I'm thinking that I might just not be able to listen to All Things Considered any more.

What think you, son of Alabama, about Jeff Sessions.


If I believed liberals on Facebook, I would think he was a racist p.o.s. However, I'm sure he's not. I've always seen him as a principled man, and was very surprised when he embraced Trump early on. I would expect him to be a competent and fair attorney general.

That's why I asked. I thought you would say something like that.



I was listening to something on NPR just a few days ago that was talking about how a lots of blacks became communists. They were interviewing a black woman, but I just can't remember the context at the moment. It wasn't so much the ideology of Communism, but the fact that they gave the blacks opportunity.

There was something in the movie about your grandfather that about the Communists supporting the Scottsboro Boys.


Yes, they very much did. I think they were a fairly big factor in the whole affair. Or at least got a lot of publicity and did not help the defense. I can't blame blacks (or anybody else for that matter, but it's especially understandable for them) who became communists when the truth about it was not well known.

Right. I'm just saying that they are condemning him for saying what is an acknowledged truth--acknowledged on NPR even.



Yes. It was discussed in that link.


I don't disagree with much of what you say, Mac. My only point of contention is that you minimize any ugliness on the Right by only stating that the Left is all wrong and horrible and driven by silly sentiment. I am on the Left, but don't identify with the crazies there.

Samantha Bee is another of the Daily Show people. Got her start on Jon Stewart's Comedy Central news show. I've never watched her show but there certainly are a lot of advertisements these days.

I'm hoping for the best from Trump & Company but then there he is tweeting to the cast of Hamilton this morning. Serious newspeople have said: audience was wrong to boo Pence, but what was said by the cast member was dignified and respectful.

Maybe dignified and respectful, but totally inappropriate. When I pay for a service, I do not expect to be embarrassed or vilified by the people that I am paying to do it.


I'd agree that it was inappropriate, though not really a big deal. Even more inappropriate is Trump jumping out there on Twitter and demanding an apology or something, or so I see people reporting. I hope somebody can talk him into restraining that tendency to lash out. Being insulted comes with the presidency.

Stu, the reason I didn't say as much about post-election craziness on the right is that I'm not seeing it. It may be there, but the reports I hear are not sourced or documented, so I don't know if they're even real or not. The conservative publications I read were mostly anti-Trump and are glad Hillary lost but not thrilled about Trump. My Trump-supporting friends on Facebook just said "Yay! We won" and moved on--no taunting, no racial animosity. But the left-wing stuff that comes my way is heavy on the hysterics. That "extinction" thing I linked to was posted on Facebook.

Regarding Samantha Bee, I think the Jon Stewart school of comedy-punditry, and its supporters, don't realize that their audience is mostly or maybe all people who already agree, and the rest of us never even hear it when they "completely DESTROY" some right-wing person or idea.

Watching the nightly news you see cell phone footage (I suppose) of kids chanting at other kids (minorities) about building the wall, etc. One would suppose that parents of these kids are Trump supporters. I really just watch the half hour newscast each evening and try to stay away from everything else if possible - you saw my FB post. I haven't unfriended anyone, but I've stopped following so many that I'm really just using FB for the friends that are non-political and to see updates from "liked" stuff. I am only arguing that for anything awful on the left there exists that same element on the right.

I don't watch tv news so I guess that's why I haven't seen it. That's...what's the word?...deplorable. If it's happening at school I hope the management is cracking down on them.

It would be a big deal if you were somebody who had plunked down $250 to see that play and were just there for a pleasant evening, or maybe a Trump supporter.


Yes, that about the chanting is deplorable. I've only read about it on Humans of New York.


I heard Pence's seat was $800. Inconceivable!

Oh sure, I would be quite angry if it were directed at me, and annoyed if I were just a Trump-Pence supporter, but this kind of thing is part of being a politician. I think Pence has more or less shrugged it off, which is smart.

Pence talked with Mike Wallace today about what happened, and unlike Trump, handled it very nicely, I think, saying he wasn't offended and then going on to try to reassure those who might be worried and fearful:

'Hamilton’ is just an incredible production, and incredibly talented people. It was a real joy to be there. You know when we arrived, we heard a few boos, and we heard some cheers. I nudged my kids and reminded them that’s what freedom sounds like.

At the end, you know, I did hear what was said from the stage, and I can tell you I wasn’t offended by what was said. I’ll leave to others whether that was the appropriate venue to say it.

I do want to say that the basic element, the center of that message is one that I want to address. That is, I know that this is a very disappointing time for people that did not see their candidate win in this national election. I know this is a very anxious time for some people. I just want to reassure people that what President-elect Donald Trump said on election night, he absolutely meant from the bottom of his heart.

He is preparing to be the president of all of the people of the United States of America, and to watch him bringing together people of diverse views, bringing together people that differed with him strongly, seeing him talk to leaders around the world, I just want to reassure every American that in the days ahead, I’m very confident that they’re going to see President-elect Donald Trump be a president for all of the people, and we embrace that principle and we’re going to work hard to make that principle every day that we serve.

Now if he can just get that message across to Trump.

I'm really glad he left it up to me to decide whether or not it was appropriate. ;-)


Some kids at Marquette High in Milwaukee were doing stuff like that. Not knowing the context, I can't say what the significance was (who the kids were; whether they thought they were just funning; whether they were Trump supporters, etc.) The admin did address it aggressively.

Unfortunately, it looks like some of the juvenile stuff on there left is being done by adults.

In a democracy there are other, more mature ways to address perceived threat, whether you are black, Hispanic, or white. Democracy doesn't work well with immature, not to mention unvirtuous people.

It's very odd that there are kids doing this in all these locations. Where is that coming from? Do they see it on TV?

I don't even watch the news and I am so sick of the irresponsible, biased press that I can't stand it.

I have asked my family not to discuss politics on Thanksgiving.


There was an email exchange within my family that could have been considered funny by somebody with no personal involvement and a very dark sense of humor. But it was real and not funny.

"Democracy doesn't work well with immature, not to mention unvirtuous people."


Very classy response from Pence. And yeah, I hope he can get it across to his boss.

Nicely, we do not discuss politics in my family. Thanksgiving will be good. I love Mike Pence's repsonse.

After 8 years of hearing Obama dissed I will be happy to laugh at Trump tweets for at least the next 4. There are good things about the other side winning. Speaking of winning, how come Charlie Sheen isn't being considered for a cabinet post? He would be perfect to work with The Donald!

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