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06/12/2017

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The Killing -- you'd be far better served to leave off the American version and just watch the original Danish one. It's much better, partly because the plot changes in the U.S. version make the story less believable and compelling. In my opinion the original is the equal of Broadchurch.

Looking forward to reading the excerpt from your book. I'm very glad you've stuck with it.

Yes, I remember you saying that, and I was holding out for the Danish version, but it still hasn't made it to Netflix. Seems like I checked Amazon at one time, too. So I decided to give this one a shot. I think I'm going to swear off dark-'n'-gritty crime dramas for a while after this but maybe I'll see the original of The Killing eventually.

Thank you. I'm ready to be done with it at this point.

But I'm supposed to be working.

AMDG

It'll keep.:-)

"maybe I'll see the original of The Killing eventually"

Well, watching the American one won't spoil it for you, since the plots are fairly different.

RE: dark and gritty, those Ozu films I've watched are the polar opposite. I'm definitely going to check out more of his work.

Yes! I love those Ozu films. Many of them are very similar, but I don't care. I've watched maybe 10, maybe more. Have you seen any of his silent films, Rob?

Maclin, I saw that poetry comment and was--I don't know what I was a jaw-dropping event.

AMDG

I just thought it was funny. Very funny. You mean you saw it here? Or did you see it on Facebook? That would be weird because it was from someone I'm reasonably certain you don't know. Or maybe I reacted to it. Don't remember doing that but I might have.

The darkness, as in physical absence of light, in The Killing is almost getting to be funny.

Facebook. I was thinking it was a comment on something David Mills said, but maybe not. I definitely saw it.

AMDG

That would be extremely weird if it appeared in two places independently. Do you remember what poet was involved? The one I saw was sort of a vaguely middle-eastern name that I didn't recognize, not Gibran or Rumi.

I don't know whether "wholeheatedly" was just a typo or deliberate. Clever if it was the latter.

I agree with Rob G that the original Danish 'Killing' is on a parvwith Broadchurch. I have not seen the American rendition and have no desire to do so

Great blurb by Fr. Neuhaus on the cover of Swimming with Scapulars -- "living Catholicism as though it were true".

Yes, that's a good way to put it. Very authentic-seeming.

I definitely would not recommend the American version of The Killing. Not that it's badly done exactly but it's...over the top seems the wrong term for something that's just relentlessly down. Not that it's extremely violent or gruesome or perverted--no worse than many others in that respect. And it's pretty slow-moving, taking time to really wallow in everybody's misery. Maybe if I hadn't recently watched Low Winter Sun, but...I'm getting tired of these crime dramas where not only the victims and the criminals and all their families and friends are miserable, but the detectives are, too.

"I'm getting tired of these crime dramas where not only the victims and the criminals and all their families and friends are miserable, but the detectives are, too."

The one recent exception to this that I've watched is 'Shetland.' Detective Jimmy Perez has his issues, but he's a fairly normal guy, and likable, as opposed to dark and morose. But the mysteries themselves are far from cozy, so the shows aren't fluff either.

Yes, I've seen those. I'd say the same of the Vera series, which I've seen all of, unless there is a set which hasn't been released in the U.S. yet. They get somewhat formulaic after a while, which is pretty hard to avoid if a series goes on for very long. And Vera has, as you say, "her issues," but her life isn't a running disaster as is the case with the cops in some of the other shows we've talked about. It's not necessarily an artistically bad choice, but like I said I'm pretty tired of it now. I mean, when you have a very painful story, like the murder of a teenaged girl and are already emphasizing its impact on her family, do you really need to have the detective's life be a painful unraveling mess, too?

"They get somewhat formulaic after a while, which is pretty hard to avoid if a series goes on for very long."

True. Did you see the season of Shetland that was one extended story over six episodes, instead of three self-contained ones? That was pretty good. It had Ciaran Hinds as one of the suspects.

Ozu: Janet, I've seen only three so far -- Late Spring, Early Summer, and Tokyo Story. I am going to keep watching though. I like him as much as I like Kurosawa, but in a very different way.

Has anyone seen Zhang Yimou's 'Coming Home'? It's the one he did before 'The Great Wall'.

Very different.

52 Movies, Week 39. ;-) I love that movie.

AMDG

I've been watching Numb3rs. The detectives are two brothers, one an FBI agent (Rob Morrow from Northern Exposure) and the other a Math genius who uses math to help his brother solve crimes (David Krumholtz who is totally unfamiliar to me). They spend a lot of time with their widowed father, who is played by Judd Hirsch.

It is not the greatest show that ever was, and I can seldom follow the math stuff,but I am enjoying it. The relationship between the three is great--just enough tension to make it interesting, but no toxicity, and I like the other characters, too. There are some ugly crimes, but what you see is not horribly grisly.

AMDG

Yes, I've seen all the Shetland episodes, though I don't remember much about an specific story except that there was a longish one, which I guess is the one you're referring to. To tell you the truth I remember the scenery as much as anything.

Weird, Janet. Totally forgot about that. And I even commented! :-)

Wei is me.

But not Woe, I hope?

It's still early.

Wei is me.

I think that might be cultural appropriation. You better be careful.

AMDG

I do want to say something about this post, hopefully tomorrow, but for the moment I wanted to post a link to Camille Paglia speaking a great deal of truth about Trump terrorism and trans-gender issues. She makes the point, which to me has been the most compelling argument against trans-gender surgery, that no matter how much surgery one has or how many hormones one takes, he/she is still a man/woman in every cell of his/her body.

AMDG

I started reading that earlier today and got interrupted. I'll finish it tomorrow. Paglia is great at times.

As for the transgender business: some kind of madness has taken hold of a large number of people. I wonder what they say about Paglia. Of course she's been making people angry for 25 years or so.

In my mind the name of your books is "War at the end of the World." I cannot rid myself of this misconception.

AMDG

Maybe when it's been on the best-seller lists for a while...?

Probably.

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