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"To Force Its Will On the Opposing Nations"

The more I think about the conclusion of that "Eleven Nations" piece (see previous post), the more it bothers me. What makes it so troubling is that it envisions no other outcome to the national conflict than having one side crush the other.

This reveals something about the thinking of contemporary liberals. I doubt you would find many people in Alabama or Texas who are seriously exercised about the abrogation of second amendment rights in Chicago, New York, Washington D.C., and many other areas of the country. People in the savage provinces might think those policies unwise and unjust, and that in the abstract everyone in those cities should have the same right to bear arms that they do. But they don't really care very much. What they will get exercised about is an attack on their own rights, which the gun control movement is, because it seeks to change the understanding of the second amendment, thus affecting everybody.

The same is at least somewhat true with regard to the deeply divisive social issues of abortion and same-sex marriage. Pro-lifers believe that abortion should be illegal or mostly illegal everywhere. But it was the Supreme Court's insistence that it must be allowed everywhere that made the movement the powerful thing it has been, and insured that the nation remains as deeply divided on the question now as it was in 1973. Had the states that wished to outlaw abortion been allowed to do so, the matter would not be nearly as inflamed, and politicians would not have been able to exploit it as they reliably do in every national election. Similarly, people in  Georgia who oppose same-sex marriage might not be pleased that California allows it, but they wouldn't really care that much if they didn't know that the proponents clearly believe that it must and shall exist in the entire country.

In contrast, present-day liberalism feels that a Christian prayer at a high school graduation in a small Mississippi town is a threat to freedom everywhere, and must be stamped out. Liberals, for all their chanting of the word "diversity," really don't want to allow much of it where something important to them is concerned. They see these questions as matters of fundamental right and wrong, and tolerance of the wrong as an unacceptable compromise with evil.

Even if we grant that the noisier element on the right gives the impression that it would like to force its reactionary will on everyone, the fact is that it has no plausible means of doing so, while the imposition by the courts of liberal prescriptions on everyone is a present reality. I've thought for many years that recourse to federalism would be the only way of preventing our deep divisions from paralyzing and perhaps destroying the country. But liberalism really has no use for it, except occasionally as a means to get a foot in the door for some innovation. 

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That struck me as pretty chilling. But I think there is something of a tendency among American academics to reduce everything to a zero-sum power game. At least, I've always assumed this is where the American students I used to socialise with picked this sort of thing up from. But perhaps it's the way sports commentators talk?

I'd call it a tendency of political progressives in general, in and out of the academy, though it's especially evident among academics since they're predominantly progressive. This guy, for instance, is a journalist. And they assume their opponents think the same way, which increases the struggle-to-the-death quality of the conflict.

I would refer you to Hugh Thomas' first edition of The Spanish Civil War concerning Manuel Azana's excuse for a particularly obnoxious and cack-handed policy (closing all secondary schools in the country because they were run by Catholic religious orders): "it is a matter of public health". These characters default to Jacobinism sooner or later. That's the deep structure in their politics.

I have often had a similar thought, and even more often encountered it in comment boxes at right-wing web sites. I generally tell myself it's a bit over the top. But the progressives themselves keep bringing it back. "a matter of public health" certainly runs close to some of the justifications for, e.g., the HHS mandate, and the long-running effort to get more and more sex-related indoctrination into the schools.

Liberals, for all their chanting of the word "diversity," really don't want to allow much of it where something important to them is concerned.

They excel at Newspeak

I doubt you would find many people in Alabama or Texas who are seriously exercised about the abrogation of second amendment rights in Chicago, New York, Washington D.C., and many other areas of the country. People in the savage provinces might think those policies unwise and unjust, and that in the abstract everyone in those cities should have the same right to bear arms that they do. But they don't really care very much. What they will get exercised about is an attack on their own rights, which the gun control movement is, because it seeks to change the understanding of the second amendment, thus affecting everybody.

I would agree with this.

But now I begin to understand why gliberals hyperventilate about "theocracy" - they assume people of a more traditional morality or conservative temperament are wanting to impose their will on others as much as the gliberals.

Exactly. I had a post about that a while back, which mostly quotes somebody else.

I'm afraid what most struck me about the older thread is that "pivovica" is an interesting portmanteau. I wonder where the "here" is that it's distilled in.

I'd guess Czech or Slovak Republic, but that's just because "pivo" and "slivovice" are among my half dozen words of Czech, along with "chleb", "klobasa", "jeden", "dva", and "dekuji". For all I know these are pretty much the same in all the other Slav languages.

I hadn't re-read the comments and at first couldn't figure out what you were talking about. Perhaps godescalc will come by soon and "pivovica." I don't know anything abou the word but I do think the drink sounds intriguing. Possibly nasty, but intriguing.

Mention of Marmite in that discussion reminds me: I have become a committed fan. It took a while, but I kept wanting another taste. And now my favorite workday breakfast is an English (or "English") muffin with Marmite and a bit of cheese. Last time I ran out we couldn't find it at the grocery store that had been carrying it, so my wife ordered me a 500g jar from Amazon.

A few days ago, Oprah said: “There are still generations of people, older people, who were born and bred and marinated in it, in that prejudice and racism, and they just have to die.”

That doesn't even try to fake a lack of hatred.

I saw that. It was rather chilling, even in the context which makes it clear that she means "we have to wait for them to die off" rather than "we have to kill them."

I have a suspicion, which is no more than that because I don't have any verifiable evidence, that the current racial climate may actually be giving white racism a new lease on life among younger people in some places.

I have become a committed fan. It took a while, but I kept wanting another taste. And now my favorite workday breakfast is an English (or "English") muffin with Marmite and a bit of cheese.

Noice!

(= "nice" but with a bogan/chigger Australian accent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogan)

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