First Things Has Redesigned Its Web Site
01/22/2014
What do you think? I'm not sure...it's snazzier, but is it appropriate for First Things?
What do you think? I'm not sure...it's snazzier, but is it appropriate for First Things?
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Awful. And here I thought the New Republic website redesign was as bad as it gets -- but even it isn't moving around all over the place.
Posted by: Marianne | 01/22/2014 at 11:15 PM
I think it's OK. I read that article, 'Alone in America.' Its very good.
Posted by: Grumpy | 01/23/2014 at 06:09 AM
I hate web sites that re-arrange themselves while I'm trying to look at them. So that top picture sliding around is very off-putting to me--even worse, it takes up most of the screen on my monitor, which is a lot wider than tall. Other than that, it's ok. I'm trying to allow for the fact that my usual first reaction to a major web redesign is to not like it, although I will never like the sliding graphic. It's funny because I had recently been reading them more. I want to read that piece on Pynchon.
Posted by: Mac | 01/23/2014 at 07:08 AM
I said "never like." Let me amend that, after another visit to the site, to "always hate."
Posted by: Mac | 01/23/2014 at 07:10 AM
They've trashed their old comments and now require disqus registration, so I guess I'm done.
The publication has been suffering for about a decade. I can look at the print edition at my local library, but you riffle through it and you think "what's the point"?
Some time ago, Fr. Neuhaus offered that if there came a point where it appeared First Things had 'finished a course of life', he hoped the publication would shut down. Sadly, the time has come.
All three individuals who have held the editors' chair over the last 10 years have been inadequate to the task for one reason or another (one was a fraud, one a profligate buffoon, and one mush meets tapioca). The current editor commissions and publishes articles which are stupefyingly boring, puts juveniles of dubious judgment in charge of moderating the blog comment sections, and allocates inordinate space to a weirdly narrow constituency within Christian congregations: people who describe themselves as religiously orthodox but insist on making a public point of their sexual disorders. There is a stable of such people on the contributors' list at First Things and their moderators protect them to some degree from criticism.
Posted by: Art Deco | 01/23/2014 at 08:25 AM
I don't read it that often but I'm pretty sure my opinion would be higher. David Mills is excellent and has been missed at Touchstone.
Posted by: Mac | 01/23/2014 at 09:44 AM
I think Mills lives in Pittsburgh and telecommutes. His bylined contributions are satisfactory, though he does not have Fr. Neuhaus' wit.
I would prefer that scarce foundation dollars be directed to Crisis, The Latin Mass, New Oxford Review, Touchstone, Ignatius Press, and other apostolates which have not failed.
Posted by: Art Deco | 01/23/2014 at 10:05 AM
New Oxford? I abandoned them a long time ago. Don't know what they've been up to since. They seemed to be heading for looney-fringe territory. Touchstone is one of three print mags I subscribe to (New Criterion and Atlantic are the other two, the latter probably not form much longer) and I'm afraid it has fallen off noticeably in recent years, though still worth reading.
It hit me upon looking at FT's site again that the redesign is intended to be mobile-device-friendly. That accounts for everything being O V E R S I Z E D.
Posted by: Mac | 01/23/2014 at 10:27 AM
I would not say 'looney fringe'. Dale Vree seemed at times to assume the worst about what people had to say and grew overly invested in certain contentions and arguments. An example of the former would be his critiques of Stratford Caldicott, &c. and of the latter would be the multi-part Michael Rose show.
Rose received some friendly criticism from certain quarters (Amy Welborn, Fr. Rob Johansen, Brian St. Paul) the burden of which was that while his general argument was true, some of his accounts were dated, some of his witnesses were not disinterested, and some of the specific charges were bum raps. The reaction of Rose and Vree was neuralgic and unnecessarily so.
Still, that was a while ago. It is true I have not looked at the magazine for over a year. I believe Dale Vree has retired in favor of his son.
My suspicion about First Things is that it is a vehicle only one person knew how to drive. Recall Peter Drucker's dictum: "if a job has defeated two or three men in succession, the job is undoable and should be abolished". Even leaving aside the dishonorable Damon Linker, James Neuchterlein certain sounded spent at the time of his valedictory in 2004, Joseph Bottum it turns out was interested in imaginative literature and not much else (and could not stay under budget), and R.R. Reno is a theological academic with the vices of the breed. Stick a fork in it. It's done.
Posted by: Art Deco | 01/23/2014 at 11:12 AM
Mills moved from Pittsburgh to NYC about a year ago, maybe a little longer.
I've never been a great fan of FT, although there are certain contributors whose work I usually enjoy. I subscribed for a while, but then let it run out. Don't like the new website much at all.
I get three periodicals: Modern Age, The Sewanee Review and Anamnesis. R.V. Young has done a good job getting the MA ship righted. He's got the issues up to date and is putting them out regularly, while maintaining quality. Anamnesis can be good but sometimes I find the articles a bit too specialized (so far, that is -- it's only 3 issues old). The SR is always good.
Posted by: Rob G | 01/23/2014 at 12:07 PM
Time will tell whether the rest of the world agrees with you.
Dale Vree often seemed to be eager to pick a fight where it wasn't really warranted. I used to review books for them occasionally, and besides the fact that I don't really like to do formal book reviews, there were some things appearing in the mag that I wasn't keen to be associated with. At this distance in time (10+ years) I don't remember any specifics.
Posted by: Mac | 01/23/2014 at 12:09 PM
Cross-posted--I was replying to Art about FT.
"too specialized" i.e. too academic was what always held me back from subscribing to FT, though whenever I ran across an issue there were always some things in it that interested me. That was pretty much true of Modern Age, too, although I didn't see it as much. The library here doesn't seem to subscribe any more.
Posted by: Mac | 01/23/2014 at 12:36 PM
Yes, I guess that MA is just as "academic" as FT, but that I'm more interested in the majority of MA's subject matter, which makes it seem more interesting to me.
By the way, Gerald Russello has done a good job with turning The University Bookman from a print journal to an on-line one. It's updated at least weekly with new reviews and essays, and he also posts pieces from old issues that contemporary readers probably have not seen.
Posted by: Rob G | 01/23/2014 at 12:55 PM
Modern Age is more-or-less an academic journal. I do not think it is peer-reviewed, but its subject matter is much the same and I know academics who put their contributions to it on their vita. ISI produces two other serial publications which I believe are much the same sort. One is called something like Studies in Burke and His Times and the other is Political Science Reviewer.
Modern Age is for people engrossed in intellectual history, as is Claes Ryn's Humanitas. MEGO, as far as I am concerned. Political Science Reviewer is more engaging (though I think it's a dozen years since I ploughed through an issue).
Posted by: Art Deco | 01/23/2014 at 01:42 PM
Mills' Linkedin entry puts him in Pittsburgh.
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-mills/b/758/2a0
Posted by: Art Deco | 01/23/2014 at 01:45 PM
I just read the Pynchon piece, a review of his most recent (I assume) novel. Interesting. I might even read it. I've read The Crying of Lot 49, which I liked a lot, and Gravity's Rainbow, which I can't say I liked but was oddly fascinating.
Posted by: Mac | 01/23/2014 at 02:20 PM
I believe that David may still own his house in Pittsburgh, but his primary residence is NYC. He'll be visiting the 'Burgh next weekend, where he and I and some other friends will be watching the Super Bowl at Patrick's Pub, our old traditional Sunday night watering hole.
Posted by: Rob G | 01/23/2014 at 02:57 PM
"MEGO, as far as I am concerned"
Yes, an idea man you are not.
Posted by: Rob G | 01/23/2014 at 03:11 PM
Yes, an idea man you are not.
I am interested in policy and institutional forms and in social dynamics. Some people invest a great deal of time into the study of the cogitations people had at one point or another. That's a vector influencing developments. I tend to doubt it is a very potent vector.
There are people who fancy you can understand working political societies by reading Thomas Jefferson's correspondence. I think if you read Thomas Jefferson's correspondence, you learn something about...Thomas Jefferson.
Posted by: Art Deco | 01/23/2014 at 03:26 PM
Ideas have consequences. It may take a while, but they do.
Posted by: Mac | 01/23/2014 at 04:08 PM
OK, there's more going on here in Pittsburgh than I thought :)
Posted by: Jeff Mierzejewski | 01/23/2014 at 06:10 PM
David Mills lives in NYC with the youngsters who help to edit the magazine. They rent a sort of student house.
Posted by: Grumpy | 01/23/2014 at 06:41 PM
Junior Fellows is their technical term (I just looked it up on the fb page of one of our former students!)
Posted by: Grumpy | 01/23/2014 at 06:44 PM
I just read that Alone in America piece, Grumpy. It is excellent.
Posted by: Mac | 01/23/2014 at 06:56 PM
I use a laptop and usually bump up the page view setting a bit. Just pushed it down for the First Things site and now it's much easier to read. So I take back by first "awful" comment. Still don't like those moving things, though. ;)
And that Alone in America article is terrific, especially the part about the need to "acknowledge and enter into each other’s sufferings."
Posted by: Marianne | 01/23/2014 at 07:21 PM
Yeah, that does help. At standard size there's too little type on the page for really comfortable reading--it begins to have that keyhole effect.
Posted by: Mac | 01/23/2014 at 08:16 PM
FT is the only print mag that we get (apart from medical journals). Funny, but I've never thought of it as particularly academic. These days, I admit, I only make time to read the book reviews, David B. Hart's column, and perhaps one or two articles. But I just renewed my subscription, so I must still like it well enough.
I'd never heard of any of the three Rob G subscribes to!
Posted by: Craig | 01/24/2014 at 12:47 PM
Ok, I have to confess I have not seen a print copy of FT for something over ten years. And it's probably more like 20 since I paid much attention to it. So maybe it's changed somewhat, or I have. I just remember slogging through debates between academics about people I hadn't read, and thinking "why am I doing this?"
I meant to say earlier: I've read a number of things from the University Bookman over the years that I thought were very good. Also, ISI used to publish the Intercollegiate Review, which was somewhat less academic than Modern Age. I don't know whether they still do.
Posted by: Mac | 01/24/2014 at 01:30 PM
That's funny, Mac. I felt much the same when I had a subscription to New Criterion. It wasn't so much the articles as the columns: all those New York concerts and plays! I would read it, salivating and feeling sorry for myself. At some point I said, "Why am I doing this?" 8-)
Posted by: Craig | 01/24/2014 at 02:04 PM
They don't affect me that way. The theater reviews are just entertaining, and the concert reviews, well, maybe I would salivate more if I had Nordlinger's sensitivity, and yours, to superior performance. As it is, since I have recordings, I'm not too envious. I hardly read the art criticism. I like the book and theater reviews, and usually at least half the miscellaneous articles.
Posted by: Mac | 01/24/2014 at 02:46 PM
The Sewanee Review is an academic literary journal published by a liberal arts college in Tennessee. Much of Flannery O'Connor's short fiction first saw print in that journal.
Forgot about Intercollegiate Review. I think it had a brief moment in the sun in the 1950s and has been abiding but quite obscure since. There was also Salisbury Review from the same publisher, I believe. ISI also published The Chesterton Review which was an issue of a division of Seton Hall University. Some of what is in that is worth a read. I think that would be my first choice among their serial fare. Most of the monographs they vend are from their inventory or are re-issues of old titles. They only issue about 3 or 4 new titles per year.
In addition to the academic articles, there was at one time some satisfactory commentary and book reviews in First Things. Fr. Neuhaus had a monthly feature which consisted of about thirty or so paragraph long commentaries, mostly apercus from what he had read in the newspaper. David Mills writes that now. It's a tough act to follow.
Posted by: Art Deco | 01/24/2014 at 03:25 PM
The Sewanee Review is the oldest continually published literary quarterly in the U.S. It's been around for something like 120 years. It remains rather traditional in its approach to literature -- not a whole lot of "theory" makes its way into the articles and reviews, and it has none of the postmodernist drivel that fills up a lot of literary journals these days.
Posted by: Rob G | 01/24/2014 at 03:48 PM
It was one of the big names in literary periodicals when I was a student 40+ years ago. I was a little surprised to hear you mention it so favorably. I figured it had faded into some combination of mediocrity and academic leftism long ago.
I subscribed to the Chesterton Review for a number of years. It's definitely worth reading. The reason I dropped it is that I never seemed to actually get around to doing so.
Fr. Neuhaus's ramble was one of the things I consistently enjoyed in FT. They put it on their web site and I used to go there and read it and nothing else.
Posted by: Mac | 01/24/2014 at 03:59 PM
I figured it had faded into some combination of mediocrity and academic leftism long ago.
I think that's what happened to South Atlantic Quarterly, which published the early Russell Kirk. It's now one of the messes put out by Duke University Press.
Posted by: Art Deco | 01/24/2014 at 04:29 PM
I'm surprised it's still going strong too. I read lots of articles from it for my PhD
Posted by: Grumpy | 01/24/2014 at 05:53 PM
I remember when Fr. Neuhaus went out of his way to insist that Public Square was not a blog. It sure seemed like one to me, although 10 times better than most, including my own.
I suppose it wasn't a blog because he didn't post every day, or something.
Posted by: Robert Gotcher | 01/24/2014 at 05:58 PM
I said that about my web site at first, too. I had a little note there saying "This is not a blog" and explaining that I wasn't going to have a blog, because it would be too time-consuming. [snort]
Posted by: Mac | 01/24/2014 at 07:45 PM
"I figured [The Sewanee Review] had faded into some combination of mediocrity and academic leftism long ago."
Not, not at all. Still very much worth reading! I was introduced to it by FPR's Jason Peters in a piece he wrote about five years ago.
Nordlinger...is that Jay Nordlinger? Did you see the five-part (yes, that's right) review/encomium he did on NRO for Mark Helprin's latest novel? I read his piece after I read the novel, and found it quite on the mark. I loved the book - In Sunlight and In Shadow.
Posted by: Rob G | 01/27/2014 at 01:33 PM
Yes, same Nordlinger, but no, I didn't see the Helprin piece. Eventually I'll get to one of Helprin's books.
Which reminds me: I'm pretty sure you're one of the people who recommended Magnolia (the movie) to me. Saw it this weekend. Very fine.
Posted by: Mac | 01/27/2014 at 01:39 PM
I suppose it wasn't a blog because he didn't post every day, or something.
The format of The Public Square was adopted around about 1990. There were no blogs at that time. As far as I can recall, First Things did not post digital content until around about 2002, if not later.
Posted by: Art Deco | 01/27/2014 at 04:24 PM
That was me! (who recommended Magnolia) Maybe Rob G too; I don't remember.
It has been quite a long time since you said you'd take a look at it. I had begun to fear that you'd seen it, hated it, and were keeping quiet to avoid giving offence. I'm glad to hear that you thought it worthwhile. In my opinion it's the best thing PT Anderson has done -- though I think that is a minority view.
Posted by: Craig | 01/27/2014 at 04:24 PM
Oh, sorry, I was thinking it was more than one person, but I could be wrong. We must have discussed it recently, because something had caused me to bump it to the top of my Netflix queue. Anyway, although there are some very ugly and disturbing things in it, it's very powerful. And the director agrees with you. I looked up the movie on Wikipedia and he's quoted as saying it's probably the best thing he'll *ever* do. Have you discussed it on your blog? I'd be interested in what you have to say.
Posted by: Mac | 01/27/2014 at 04:44 PM
Or I should say: I must have discussed it with *someone* recently.
Posted by: Mac | 01/27/2014 at 04:45 PM
Of course it wasn't technically a blog, but it had the feel of one once they came out around 2000.
Posted by: Robert Gotcher | 01/27/2014 at 07:54 PM
Maybe he didn't want to look like he was getting on a bandwagon, but once it was online it was pretty much the same thing as a blog.
Posted by: Mac | 01/27/2014 at 10:45 PM
Ok, Craig, here is the conversation where you most recently recommended Magnolia, and I said I would put it at the top of my Netflix queue. Two and a half, almost three months ago. So your "long time" and my "fairly recently" are the same thing.:-) The fact that I only got the dvd from Netflix a week or so ago is a measure of how little I've been watching dvds recently, while going through all those recorded movies on my dvr.
And it seems Rob has not seen it at all, and says he might wait for my verdict. So, Rob, you should definitely see it. There are some quite crude and unpleasant scenes, but it's definitely worth it.
Posted by: Mac | 01/28/2014 at 11:19 AM
Yes, very crude and unpleasant at times, but I would argue that those aspects find their place within an overall moral framework that is basically sound. I'm really glad that you liked it.
I love the energy and abandon of the film: the way the storylines are always spilling into one another, the blurring of the distinction between the "real-world" sounds and the soundtrack, and, of course, the audacity of the big setpiece that is the key to the whole affair. His subsequent films have grown progressively more controlled and refined; I know several cinephiles who think he has become the great working director in the process, but personally I prefer what he was doing before.
I haven't written about Magnolia, I don't think. It's such a sprawling, multi-faceted film that I hardly know where to begin.
Posted by: Craig | 01/28/2014 at 12:02 PM
"...those aspects find their place within an overall moral framework that is basically sound." Definitely.
Some marvelous performances there, too. I thought Tom Cruise's was a little overheated at times, even for the very overheated character, but still powerful. Melora Walters (Claudia), whom I'd never heard of before, was really great.
Posted by: Mac | 01/28/2014 at 01:07 PM
One magazine which I have subscribed to which is very enjoyable is Slightly Foxed. It's full of reading suggestions.
Posted by: Grumpy | 01/28/2014 at 08:17 PM
This? Looks interesting.
Posted by: Mac | 01/28/2014 at 11:09 PM
Yes. I would have thought an Anglophile would love it! I have discovered all kinds of poets and novelists I did not know about from reading it - and it also has very good short stories.
Posted by: Grumpy | 01/29/2014 at 05:32 AM
I think I'll give it a try. I notice the current issue has a piece on Ronald Blythe--that's a good sign. Maybe it would help moderate my jaundiced view of the current literary scene. Isn't "slightly foxed" a term from book collecting?
Posted by: Mac | 01/29/2014 at 08:24 AM
Hmm, they only give prices in pounds & Euros...how's that going to work? I guess I can find out by trying.
Posted by: Mac | 01/29/2014 at 10:36 AM
Slightly Foxed means the covers are frayed at the edges. Second hand books.
Posted by: Grumpy | 01/30/2014 at 05:46 AM
Thought it was something like that.
Posted by: Mac | 01/30/2014 at 07:53 AM