« Johnny Tremain | Main | Skynet Is Never Going To Become Self-Aware »



Feed You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post.

I thought this book was worth reading, and he had a different point-of-view from anyone else I have read, although it isn't a typical Muslim point-of-view. I agree that it wasn't particularly well-written. That surprised me from someone who makes his living as a writer.

I haven't read that FT article, or anything else he has written. I had never heard of him before. Life in my bubble.


I can't remember whether I heard of him first in connection with this book or with his journalism. Fairly close in time, anyway. Definitely not a typical Muslim point of view! It was interesting to encounter a Muslim kid with more or less the same cynical view of Islam and Islamic authority that a typical American teenager might have of Christianity and, say, the religious right.

Very good David French piece. I really had no idea of this kind of thing happening:

In spite of the fact that there was a vibrant Christian and conservative presence on campus, Ruth and Orit fought largely alone. In fact, one large campus ministry was angry at them for defending the Constitution, claiming it was making their life more difficult on campus. I had to fly to meet the general counsel of a major campus ministry to justify my decision to fight for the Constitution. I met with tenured Christian faculty and urged them to stand with Ruth and Orit, and while some offered (appreciated) private support, the public silence was deafening . . . and shameful.
The Tech case was extraordinary, but the cowardice — or sometimes outright opposition — of allies was typical. In my very first campus case, a brave Christian group challenged Rutgers University after it tossed the group off campus for upholding a rule requiring that its leaders adhere to the group’s statement of faith. The very first opposition to the case came from — you guessed it — other Christians. They berated one of the group leaders so badly that I’ll never forget our late-night conversation as she wept at the pain and betrayal. But she persevered, and she won.

I was somewhat surprised by that, too. Not entirely, but somewhat. One thing I take from it is more evidence for something I've remarked on before: progressivism is now far more morally confident than orthodox Christianity. In matters related to sex especially, they *know* they are right. Whereas Christians tend to feel a little (or a lot) guilty and diffident.

I'd been curious about this book, wondering if I should make time to read it. The brouhaha over David French-ism inclined me gently away, and your thoughts push a little further in the same direction (although Janet pushes back, so maybe it's a wash).

I will say that seeing thoughtful converts to the faith in these trying times is encouraging. I admire the courage of those who do this in the public eye in inauspicious circumstances.

Yes, it is extremely encouraging. I think there will always be such, though they may become more rare.

By the way, I think Janet and I are more or less in agreement. I did say "worth reading", as she did, though maybe that was obscured by the un-enthusiasm in which it was embedded.

Ha. I was thinking the same thing. The two things I said were in your post.

It was the cultural aspects--more or less secular Muslims--that I found most interesting.

I also think it is somewhat telling that he practices a really traditional form of Catholicism.


Not unusual for converts, as you know. Have you seen that Facebook page "Susan From the Parish Council"? Mocks elderly progressive Catholics. It's inconsistent but funny sometimes.

In real life there is a super-prog parish somewhere in which white progressives are fighting a more traditionalist African priest. That's had a couple of genuinely funny moments. Such as when they sang "We Shall Overcome" at him. Unless I'm thinking of a Babylon Bee post....

Verify your Comment

Previewing your Comment

This is only a preview. Your comment has not yet been posted.

Your comment could not be posted. Error type:
Your comment has been posted. Post another comment

The letters and numbers you entered did not match the image. Please try again.

As a final step before posting your comment, enter the letters and numbers you see in the image below. This prevents automated programs from posting comments.

Having trouble reading this image? View an alternate.


Post a comment

Your Information

(Name is required. Email address will not be displayed with the comment.)