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Very good. Now I want to see the opposite version.

Interesting take on the Barbie movie by a millennial mom:

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/barbie-a-millennial-mom-movie/

I have heard many millennials, mostly women in their early to mid thirties, talk about needing to start doing "adult things." I found this odd, and somewhat sad, until I remembered that a central part of boomer- and Gen X-dom was resistance to growing up. Whatever one finds annoying about millennials, the fact that they are deciding to grow up in their 30's rather than in their 50's seems to be a good thing.

(Note that I am speaking in generalities here. This no more applies to all millennials than it does to all boomers.)

I saw that piece and thought it was quite interesting, the only thing I've read about the movie that made me think it might be worth seeing.

You've seen the term "adulting" I guess? I think it was well over ten years ago that I started seeing it as a somewhat comic reference to "doing adult things." The tone was (is?) surprise that one is adulting.

My own millenial children have been adulting for quite some time now, I'm pleased to say.

Same with my daughter -- she's 31 and in many ways is considerably more "adult" than I was at that age.

Another interesting take on Barbie, from Amy Welborn:

https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2023/07/26/barbies-surprising-journey/

And another, linked to in Amy Welborn's piece:

https://compactmag.com/article/socialism-or-barbie-ism

I'm beginning to think the movie might actually be kind of fun.

"kind of fun"

That's the impression I got from the couple of trailers I saw. It struck me as one of those comedies that could be either pretty funny or pretty awful. I have yet to talk to anyone who has seen it though, so can't be sure.

Stu,
We got to a small,local theater and pay $7 versus the $10 we pay in Memphis. These are senior afternoon rates. I love my little theater.

I guess Barbie will be on Disney, so I won't see it.

Unless they offer me a month free.

AMDG

That sounds like a good price, Janet. Margo is a difficult movie companion. She wants to see Oppenheimer, but only at this one theater that is small and you must reserve the seats in advance (at $18 each). It is sold out through the weekend, which amazes me*. I could just go see it on my own at a regular theater, but that might cause displeasure. I should add that when we go to the reserve seating place we also order food (hamburgers around $18 a piece; large sodas $7 each; 18% surcharge for nothing; then a tip for the kids bringing you everything). So each movie ends up costing us around $100. I find it all to be rather pathetic, but I am for trying to keep the peace. ;-)
*It does make me happy that movies are making a small post-COVID comeback.

$100?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Inconceivable! I mean, the $18 ticket price sounds bizarre to me.

I have to admit, though, that it sounds enjoyable.

I still don't understand why Oppenheimer is so popular. Weird subject for a blockbuster. I guess if I went to see it I might understand.

When I went to see 'Asteroid City' a couple weeks ago I did so on a Tuesday, which is Cinemark's discount day in our area. Price was $9.00. I think it's $12 or $13 regularly for an evening show. Sometimes matinee shows (before 6:00) are discounted as well, but I don't go enough to know all the ins and outs of the various days and times.

A friend from the UK who saw Oppenheimer, and who is something of a film buff, says that "it's a remarkable piece of cinema with a stunning central performance." It is an odd subject for a blockbuster, but the trailers make it look quite compelling, and I imagine that the word-of-mouth is very good as well. I'm going to try to find the time to see it this week. I wonder how many people go in not knowing it's three hours?

The arrival of the Bill Nighy 'Ikiru' film from the library turned out to be bogus. The notice I got was incorrect (the DVD hadn't actually shown up but was 'in transit'). Still hasn't arrived but unless it got misdirected or something the librarian says it should show up tomorrow or Tuesday. Not sure why it's taking so long. It's not an interlibrary loan, but a transfer from a county library in the same system. Normally these things only take four or five days.

I wonder if the fact that Christopher Nolan is the director has something to do with the film's popularity. I believe he has a following.

Also, I think having two megalomaniacs talking about using nuclear weapons has made people think more about the issue.

AMDG

“Vaguely recognize the name” is all I can say about Nolan.

Yeah, you’re probably right about it being on people’s minds more than it would have been a year or two ago.

One of those short articles popped up on my phone stating that David Lynch did the nuclear bomb blast better in Twin Peaks 3 than Nolan did in Oppenheimer. I was happy to see that since I think Twin Peaks 3 is the greatest thing I have ever seen on television, and especially that particular episode.
Mac, I can't believe you don't know Christopher Nolan's name. I could probably name all of his movies except maybe the first without looking at the internet. Of course I am very into certain directors.
Janet, I do think that is the case with Oppenheimer. It's more about him than the subject matter. Even Tenet, which really made no sense at all and came out during the height of the Covid scare was much talked about at the time.
The Barbie sensation is more about the toy/doll that has been extremely popular for decades, even though Greta Gerwig is (I think) already becoming a great director with this just her third feature so far.

Ok, I looked him up and see that I have actually seen two of his films, Memento and Interstellar. Liked the former, lukewarm about the latter. Looks like a lot of his fame rests on the Batman stuff, none of which I've seen, because that kind of thing doesn't interest me much.

I think my mind was warped a little by early exposure to '50s and '60s European art films. I still kind of feel like nothing else is really seriously good. I'll just spend the rest of my movie-watching life watching my Bergman collection over and over. And a few others.

Nolan's been hit-or-miss with me, so I can't really call myself a big fan, although even his lesser efforts are usually interesting. I liked his first Batman movie a lot, disliked the second one, and as a result did not see the subsequent ones (if there were any). As a matter of fact, his second one put me off comic-book movies altogether. I wasn't crazy about "Interstellar," but it affected me enough to make me want to watch it again, and I liked it a lot more the second time around. Oh, and "Dunkirk" was great.

I may go see Oppenheimer tonight if there's a nearby theater that has a workable showtime for me. The rest of my week is booked up so o/w I'll have to wait until next week.


Despite knowing his films well, Nolan is not an all-time favorite of mine. I realize that what I said above may lead you to believe that. I suppose I am more in awe of his filmmaking than truly loving it as much as I do so many others (W. Allen, D. Lynch, W. Anderson, Coen Brothers, M. Scorsese, etc.). Nolan's second Batman movie is widely thought to be the finest superhero movie ever made. I remember going to see it with my uncle and we were both "blown away". The third one was overshadowed by a crazy person in Colorado who shot up the theater during a showing of it. While it was quite good, I've never been able to distance it from that event, which of course Nolan had nothing to do with.

Well, those are pretty much completely opposite views of the second Batman.

Stu, as we've discussed before, I don't understand your great admiration for Twin Peaks 3. I had great hopes for it but was somewhat disappointed. Not that it was bad, but not nearly as good as I had hoped.

I'm crazy, Mac. The stuff I love the most a lot of times tends to be the most surreal. I go back to David Lynch and Charlie Kaufman films (and TV) so much more than I do others. In the past year I have re-watched Eraserhead at least four times, and Kaufman's I'm Thinking of Ending Things (a Netflix movie) three times. Not that I like either more than say Mulholland Drive, but streaming is easier than working the DVD player (lol). I read Charlie Kaufman's first book, Antkind, I guess two years ago when it first came out, and ever since then I've been wanting to re-read it. At 700+ pages that would be another long commitment. I suppose I see this type of "art" as being so strange, interesting, and complex that every time you revisit it you see more. Twin Peaks 3 would certainly fall into that category. I suppose it goes with what your view of humanity and the world is, in a way. I don't watch Christopher Nolan movies over and over. :)

I said at the time that I would probably watch Twin Peaks 3 again. Maybe it’s time. Also Mulholland. I’ve never seen Eraserhead—it just looks too creepy. I know a woman who saw it when she was in her teens, or barely out maybe, and declared that she would never have children. She eventually did though.

Once you get through the movie one time then there are no surprises and you can concentrate on the filmmaking. With Twin Peaks 3 in a way he really came full circle to how he began things in Eraserhead. I find it particularly fascinating (obviously).

Hmm. Can you expand on “full circle” a little?

I am probably over-reacting and it's more just the imagery and style that took me aback after seeing Eraserhead for the first time since maybe the 80s. Since it was on HBO Max, and I was streaming it at the time, I kept watching over and over and you see so many things that he went back to in TP3. Since he was a young man when he made the first, and is now in his 70s and could possible be done filming TV or movies that is where my idea of "full circle" came from. Maybe Lynch is more like an artist than a real filmmaker, and this is the reason.

That makes sense. Not having seen Eraserhead I can't see the movement.

I couldn't remember whether I had "bought" TP3 for streaming or not. If I did, it's apparently un-bought now. I know I paid for it but I'm not sure who I paid. Maybe it was just a rental...? It was on Showtime but I sort of think I got it through Prime. Anyway my only choice now apparently is to "buy" it for $40 or start a trial subscription to Paramount+. So I guess I'm not going to be re-watching it anytime soon. Bah.

Oh wait, the library has it on dvd. Yay for libraries.

I bought TP3 on DVD back around Christmas time - Amazon had it on sale for half price or something. I think I paid $19 for it. Watched it again earlier this year. Enjoyed it more the second time, but still found it somewhat disappointing overall, mainly because I don't care much for the ending (although I must admit it made more sense the 2nd time).

I do agree with Stu about Episode 8 though -- I think it's fantastic. I like it so much I bought a "Gotta Light?" t-shirt.

I can't remember enough specifically about that episode or the "got a light?" thing to have an opinion. Though now that I think about it I may have thought the bomb thing went on too long....

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