"Peak Post-Conciliar"
10/23/2023
I try not to pay too much attention to current developments in the Catholic Church, as probably does everyone not in some way directly involved with the Church. It isn't difficult. It's like following, or rather abstaining from following, political campaigns. Every day brings some development which is reported upon excitedly for a while, then fades, and within weeks or months may be completely irrelevant and inconsequential, like, for instance, Bill Weld's 2020 campaign for the presidency. This effort is part of my broader attempt to break my habit of anxiety and worry about things over which I have no control.
But, as with political campaigns, in the longer run what happens in the Church does affect me, and so I don't ignore it completely.
I take it as more or less given that the Synod on Synodality is a waste of time at best, at worst a source of further trouble. All the sanctimonious talk about accompaniment and inclusion is fatally compromised by the malice of Traditionis Custodes. So I'm not paying much attention. The fact that the thing is happening at all is more interesting than the thing itself: what, really, is going on? What makes so many in the hierarchy, and others, see this as an important activity?
And so I am passing along these remarks from Amy Welborn:
I’ve often said that one of the negative outcomes of the Second Vatican Council was the emphasis on internal church affairs. Not only that people got the notion that the most important Catholic marker of all was being “involved in the Church” but more importantly, because everything – everything was up for grabs afterwards, that’s where the energy went, that should have been about continuing to share the Good News with the world – it became all about organization, dividing spoils and struggling for power.
This Synod on synodality – is the pinnacle. It truly is peak Post-Conciliar.
I guess I could ask whether this is really the peak, and whether there are greater heights which the churchy can attain. I am constitutionally inclined to say "Things could always be worse." Still, I love the phrase. And it is plainly the case that since the Council the Church has spent more energy on internal conflict than on the outreach to the world that was the justification for it.
There's more worth reading in that piece. It's brief, but it links to this one from July, which in turn links to others, all equally perceptive and worth reading.
If you're interested, I gave what is probably my last extensive remark on Vatican II in this post from about a year ago. I suppose I'll never leave it completely alone, but it seems unlikely that my views will change significantly.
I want the next meeting to be simple: how to convincingly propose to mankind in 2023 that Jesus is The Way, The Truth and The life, full stop? Maybe we could call if the Synod on Burning our own Golden Calf.
Posted by: Father Matthew Venuti | 10/24/2023 at 11:25 PM
Clearly you don't understand that The Spirit Is Doing a New Thing.
I looked around for a meme or some other graphic to liven up this post. I found several about the Cadaver Synod. That might be appropriate in that this synod is probably itself a cadaver.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadaver_Synod
Posted by: Mac | 10/25/2023 at 08:27 AM
I left the church of the new thing in my rearview mirror.
Posted by: Father Matthew Venuti | 10/25/2023 at 12:49 PM
And now it's gaining on you again.
Posted by: Mac | 10/25/2023 at 05:56 PM
“We hope that the months leading to the second [Vatican] session in October 2024 will allow everyone to concretely participate in the dynamism of missionary communion indicated by the word ‘synod,’”
I don't know how anyone's heart could fail to be stirred by a call to "the dynamism of missionary communion."
Posted by: Mac | 10/26/2023 at 09:21 AM
"And so we have the bizarro world spectacle of the People of God being left in the dark about what it is their representatives are saying about what it is that the People of God want. Apparently, the People of God are to be selectively listened to, but not trusted, and therefore the synodal deliberations must be free of interference from the pesky People of God so that the People of God can get things done. You can’t make this stuff up."
https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2023/10/26/this-synod-is-wide-shallow-and-contrary-to-vatican-ii/
Posted by: Mac | 10/27/2023 at 03:55 PM
We're at the point where the more Catholic you are, the more Protestant you are. I don't know what to make of it all. "Won't be nothing you can measure anymore."
Posted by: Don | 10/27/2023 at 10:46 PM
One can see it either as an incoherent waste of time or nefarious scheme to "reimagine Church." Well, it can be both, I guess. Either way the ordinary orthodox Catholic has to just wait it out. Unfortunately that wait is probably going to go on way past the end of my life.
"Re-imagining" and "re-inventing" are quite the buzz-words these days. I've seen ads urging me to "re-imagine your belt." What?!? Who gives that much thought to a belt?
Posted by: Mac | 10/28/2023 at 10:16 AM
An acquaintance said to me the other day that it will take decades to adequately evaluate the pontificate of Pope Francis.
Posted by: Robert Gotcher | 11/01/2023 at 12:02 PM
I done my evaluation already. :-)
Posted by: Mac | 11/01/2023 at 06:44 PM
So, apparently, has Larry Chapp. https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2023/11/02/new-papal-document-reads-like-a-conclusion-in-search-of-an-argument/
Posted by: Robert Gotcher | 11/03/2023 at 07:56 PM
I read that earlier and applauded. I’m not likely ever to read the document he’s discussing but I’m pretty sure he’s right about it. I like Chapp.
Posted by: Mac | 11/04/2023 at 12:42 AM